You can’t fake pupil dilation. And you know nobody’s playing with the lighting to make them dilate (what would be the point, from a production point of view?). This is 100% natural reaction. Destiel? Cockles? Both? The world may never know…
MISHA TOO MISHA TOO
Ummm. S'gotta be Cockles. You can’t *act* pupil dilation either. Go try it. I’ll wait.
Signed: A girl with acquired Horner’s syndrome (go Google it) who has spent too much time staring at her pupils and thinking about how they act.
for anyone who doesn’t already know, if your pupils dilate when you look at someone it’s most likely a sign of interest / attraction / arousal (take your pick).
I’m going to talk about Jensen’s pupil dilation for a second, because it’s incredibly obvious compared to whatever Misha’s eyes are doing.
let’s say controlled pupil dilation was possible. Jensen would probably attempt to conquer that ability for the sake of acting better. he’s all about the subtleties. we know that about his acting.
so if Jensen did indeed have impossible eye-controlling superpowers, I have a question. why would Jensen make a point of using that power to show Dean as attracted to Cas? let me list the reasons. 1. he was consciously playing Dean as bisexual, 2. he was invested in Destiel as a romantic relationship from the get-go, 3. both of the above. (of course, this is assuming that he dilated his pupils ~on purpose~.)
the thing is, though, over the years hundreds of actors and actresses came and went, playing other characters who interact with Dean, and Jensen didn’t bother to use this fantastic pupil-dilating power each time Dean was attracted to someone. so what made Misha different? was it that he’d be sticking around, and it was worth putting in the effort? nope. the writers hadn’t even planned on bringing Cas back after the first three episodes of season 4. Misha was supposed to be on set for a few weeks and then he’d be gone. at the time Jensen and Misha met, not expecting it to last, Jensen couldn’t have been deeply invested in Destiel as a future relationship – certainly not enough to care whether or not his goddamn pupils were dilated. this gifset is from the second episode they had together.
sure, Jensen could’ve been going for “the pushy angel turns Dean on”; end of story. whether he played that consciously or not, that’s what became canon. Dean is totally into Cas, hooray! nobody is surprised.
but c’mon, let’s face it. those aren’t magical eye-controlling superpowers. nothing’s happening to the lights to make Jensen’s pupils expand. it’s definitely not CGI. above all: Jensen’s not dilating his pupils on purpose. what you’re looking at is not singularly Dean’s attraction to Cas. you’re seeing Jensen’s attraction to Misha too. these dorks just met two weeks ago (8 days filming each episode), and Jensen is already hopelessly gone on Misha.
in conclusion, this is straight-up Cockles.
Pupillary response is a physiological response that varies the size of the pupil
Natural release of the hormone oxytocin can cause mild to moderate mydriasis. Strong sexual arousal can often lead to very enlarged pupils, rather than the minor dilation observed during sexual affection
Misha’s doing it too, it’s just harder to tell because the angle of the shot’s more oblique.
These pupils are widened but not blown, so I’d call it more sexual interest than all-out arousal, but still, look at that!
I love how we all as a fandom have deeply analysed the dilation of Jensen’s pupils and manage to uncover the truth about his attraction to Misha.
Isn’t it interesting that qareen!Amara told Dean she saw the love in his heart, but minutes later Dean (sincerely) talked about how he doesn’t feel love (nor desire) for Amara?
Isn’t it interesting that words like “pining”, “heart” and "feelings" have been associated with Dean recently - before Amara was even in the show?
Isn’t it interesting that the only textual pining we have recently seen was in 10x16, where Dean told us there are people and feelings he basically longs to “experience differently or even for the first time”?
Isn’t it interesting how in 11x13 it was underlined that what’s between Dean and Amara is something Dean thinks is NOT love, and in the next episode we’re (according to Carver) going to see a major turning point in the whole fight against the Darkness - and that turning point comes because Dean finds out about Cas?
I think it’s all very interesting, and I’m kinda freaking out.
‘Supernatural’ fans have made it clear they want Dean to be touched by an angel in more ways than one. Will Castiel ever deliver? — the mtv website’s description for destiel (via winged-grace)
What she says:
I'm fine What she means:
Castiel is based of the angel Cassiel and Cassiel is the angel who fell in love with the righteous man *cough cough* Dean. Destiel has to become canon there are just so many Destiel moments. I don't think I'll ever be truly happy until its canon.
I feel like I should add because this episode really made me feel like there was no way they could have discussed everything to be fine and move on, that this is probably Jensen’s interpretation of the scene and maybe even how Dean would feel as a result of the conversation but I just… after seeing that episode and having my heart bleed everywhere for Cas and seeing how un-ready Dean is for any emotional splurging, I really can’t believe this conversation would have been anything other than surface fine, and the issues left to bubble over again later anyway?
Like, I dunno, I actually thought I was going to be pissed at this but when the credits were rolling I couldn’t make myself believe we’d missed out on core emotional bonding moments?
Given the way they left Dean and Cas alone to follow Sam for his cage vision, and the fact that Berens says that a lot was cut by the editors, I’m guessing there actually was a scene that went a bit more into it at the end there that got cut. Fingers crossed for a deleted scene on the DVDs… (Although if it did then I’m super annoyed that that’s what they decided to cut.)
This is one more for my ongoing file of editing and PR (paratext-y) decisions that make me think that there are two Supernatural canons. There’s the one the dedicated fans are watching, and there’s the one the casual viewers are seeing when they tune in without any paratextual context. Dedicated fans know there was supposed to be a conversation and what it was supposed to be about; they knew that Berens was supposed to write it, and had a rough idea of how Berens handles dialogue and their dynamic; if it was filmed and edited out (which it seems to have been, given Berens’ tweets) they will eventually watch it on the DVD. Casual viewers? Nope.
eta: Also, Jensen – Cas is very much not okay. So, alternately, was Jensen just being totally sarcastic and throwing shade at the lack of conversation, here? I don’t even know anymore.
Well, if he had just read the script, he may not have known about the flashbacks that are the most obvious evidence of Castiel not being alright. Of course there’s a lot more, but it’s only the last scene – which may have contained their conversation – that they shot together.
But you’re definitely onto something with this paracanon. We get the queer text but the mainstream audience is getting a heteronormative text.
It depends on if the flashbacks were scripted.
Dean didn’t say he or Cas were fine individually, he was saying they were fine in their relationship, meaning came to an understanding and on the same page. Of course no one in Supernatural is ever fine, Jensen knows that. That being said, he might think being okay is relative.
Depends on what you mean by mainstream. I know we’ve all heard stories from shippers whose friends and family have watched the show and, often with out prompting from the shipper, see that Dean and Cas’ relationship isn’t entirely platonic. Not every non slash shipper chants “no homo” while watching the show.
Oh, I’m certain the general audience – or at least portions of it – is able to appreciate subtext and see the chemistry between the actors. By the paracanon I’m referring to scenes like the textual “I love you“ that was cut from Goodbye Stranger or the scripted naked Dean Winchesters in Castiel’s heaven in Stairway to Heaven. The general audience will never have heard of these. But there’s an increasing amount of material we know was scripted, sometimes even shot, that they ended up cutting from the product that airs only to be added as DVD extras for the true believers. And this results in two stories being told.
I’d say they lay side by side verse being two different stories or rather they’re two different interpretations of the same story. Usually those cuts or changes are made for good reason. I think that Dean wouldn’t have said “I love you,” and it was more in character for the scene to be scripted the way it was.
Either way, I just don’t think the scene Jensen was talking about would have fit in this episode. That finale scene was all tense and Sam and Cas wondering if Dean was lying. It would be a huge shift in emotional tone for Cas and Dean to agree to forgive each other for beating the other one up under the influence of dark forces. It wouldn’t have fit. If their conversation was after that scene then it was in fact cut for a good reason. The episode had a weird flow to it already, but that would have been too much.
I have to say I think the conversation would have fit just fine. Not only that, it was clearly supposed to be there, and the fact that it wasn’t threw the ending and the whole episode off kilter. It’s not like SPN is afraid of breakneck mood changes – see Dean going from telling Sam “this is a dictatorship” to giving Cas mellow reassurances seconds later, while Sam was still within earshot. (End of season 9.)
And I also think that there are two stories being told. When the season 10 DVD came out with the unaired scenes from that season – the boyfriend convo between Cas and Crowley, Dean seeing Cas in his dream – I wasn’t the only one who felt like season 10 made a lot more sense with those scenes.
And that’s okay, because if destiel doesn’t happen, what matter’s most to me is that Castiel is apart of Sam and Dean’s lives. That they’ll treat him how he deserves to be after everything he’s sacrificed for them. Not as a tool to be used but as family.
So long as they show him that he is welcomed, loved and appreciated as family then i’ll be satisfied.
As much as I hope for destiel to happen, what I want most and foremost is for Cas to be treasured and treated right.
It’s not all too bad, I mean if it never happens, at least we have beautiful art and fan fiction to keep up happy :)
with cas living at the bunker this is the easiest time to make destiel canon okay like u could do it in aNY filler episode. like, the episode starts and sam is walking through the bunker looking for dean to tell him about a case and they meet in the hallway outside of dean’s room and dean’s like, “yeah, what’s up?” and as they’re talking cas just slips out of dean’s room in the background wearing boxers and dean’s shirt and he’s yawning and sam just stops talking and stares as cas walks out of frame and so dean’s like, “dude, what?”
and sam just shakes his head and is like, “nothing, don’t worry about. so anyway, this case…”
honestly the fact that this episode brought up dean being with someone who is also a hunter & then having him go through a case with cas on the phone & contrasting all of sam x other women flirting and dean x cas on the phone together is making me? ??? ? question ? everything????
omg that was what I was saying! It was like a perfect setup for future destiel but I’m so afraid to hope. I really am, but omg, so perfect. So perfect. Especially if they’ve decided this is the last season, which I wouldn’t be surprised if they announce that at midseason.
AND Dean never actually answered Sam’s question, he deflected both times Sam asked it.
Sam knows, and Dean knows, and Sam knows that Dean knows, and vice versa. EVERYBODY KNOWS. *watches everyone slowly tapdance toward the edge of the stage with it*
The last time the show was so clear about a romantic set-up was in season five when the were setting up Dean x Lisa (“You ever think that you’d want something like that? Wife, rugrats, the whole nine?”). I’d been hoping against hope for something similar and we got it, whooo!
Yep. And there was no mention of “wife” this time. Every term Sam used was gender neutral. “Someone.” He knows Dean wants “someone.”
Another instance of Dean not answering Sam was when Sam called the car home at the end. That’s not what Dean considers home anymore. His home is where there’s someone waiting for him to come back.
